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Posted 4/30/2008 11:59:02 AM


 

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Aside from the apparent ideal of keeping a single species in a closed system with regard to minimizing allelopathy, what is the most useful level of taxonomic grouping to limit oneself to when making stocking decisions and are there any concise references of compatibility among corals? Thank you.


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Posted 5/1/2008 5:09:16 AM


 

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I am not sure these interactions in closed systems have been studied enough to definitively say coral A is fine with coral B.


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Posted 5/1/2008 7:28:57 PM


 

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Thanks for the reply, sweet greenhouse! I'm brand new and at first was planning on the mixed garden style until I found out corals don't really like each other all that well. I was hoping at least there was some level of relation that one could safely stick with as a rule of thumb since I'm trying to devise an ecology based filterless system and would rather not run carbon.

For example, do certain Scleractinians not get along or are they so closely related that they don't harm each other? Am I wrong in assuming carbon will hurt plankton populations? I suppose maybe the pores are too small to impact organisms larger than bacteria and maybe protists.


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Posted 5/1/2008 8:54:03 PM


 

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OK, first I admit I have not done enough research to justify asking forum questions with regard to this topic. I have focused on refugiums, hardware and initial set-up; now it's time to really nail down stocking since I don't think it's far off.

I noticed families within Scleractinia that I have already heard are toxic - notably Fungia (I actually didn't realize the "LPS" are in this order as I've read they have the potential to be as toxic as soft corals). Is it at least within the realm of the anecdotal knowledge base that I am pretty safe staying within Pocillopora and Acropora? Any other families likely to play nice with these must-haves? Thanks!

PS: I think fungia in the bottom of the lagoon tank within an "SPS" system would be awesome, but not worth it if it hurts or restricts growth of the main attraction. I assume these chemicals are large organic molecules and probably a fluidized bed carbon rig would probably go far toward eliminating most and allowing some non-ideal compatibility choices?


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Posted 5/1/2008 10:43:23 PM
 

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Cnidarian Compatibility: On Reducing Negative Cnidarian Interactions
Bob Fenner

Part 1
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/cnidcompppt.htm

Part 2
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/cnidcompppt2.htm

Part 3
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/cnidcomppt3.htm

Part 4
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/cnidcompppt4.htm

Part 5
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/cnidcomppt5.htm

 

HTH


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Posted 5/1/2008 10:45:04 PM
 

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Ooopps ... Part 5 should be:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/cnidcompppt5.htm



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Posted 5/2/2008 7:23:59 AM


 

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Thanks a lot, very helpful! I have been looking through wwm for a while, but didn't run into those areas yet. Is it just me or does that website take weeks from your life? Like you go to look something up which leads to something else then you look up from the computer and are like "what day is this?"


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Posted 5/5/2008 5:59:04 AM


 

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Sweet Reefer (5/2/2008)
I have been looking through wwm for a while, but didn't run into those areas yet. Is it just me or does that website take weeks from your life? Like you go to look something up which leads to something else then you look up from the computer and are like "what day is this?"

You should try volunteering there. 


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Posted 5/5/2008 9:00:28 PM


 

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what do you have against using carbon?

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Posted 5/6/2008 6:08:32 PM


 

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Nothing against carbon, it seems inevitable anyway to get rid of yellow in the water. I just don't want to lose plankton.


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