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Posted 4/3/2007 6:46:03 PM


 

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I cut my first RBTA about 6 weeks ago and a Sebae about 1 week ago.

I accidently cut the RBTA a little off center and one half was back to original size within 3 weeks and the other half has not grown since cutting and seems to not be healing back together. I just fed them about an hour ago and the small one took food even though it hasn't seemed to heal in about 6 weeks now.

When I cut the sebae I was very careful to cut exactly down the center, but came up with almost the same results. The difference is that the non-healing half of the sebae stays upside down. Every time I flip it over, I come back to it upside down again later.

I am using a clean, new 12x12 ceramic tile and a brand new very sharp filet knife for the cutting. Just curious if anyone has run accross a problem like this, where half heals and the other doesn't. I am baffled since they are obviously cut in the same environment with the same tools and put back into the same tank after soaking for 1 hour. I figured I screwed up on the first one and didn't worry too much about it until it happened again on the second anemone.

Todd
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Posted 4/4/2007 8:12:53 AM


 

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please describe the systems they are in, bro.

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Anthony Calfo

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Posted 4/4/2007 9:45:36 AM


 

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They are in plain glass 20 gallon long tanks with a large sponge filter and 50% weekly water changes. I will be moving them to 100 gallon stock tanks with I/O carpet sponge filters and protien skimmer when my cutting is going better and my broodstock numbers are high enough to justify it. These are monoculture with only the mother and soon to be clones (RBTA, GBTA, Sebae) in each tank.

The only exception to monoculture would be Pom Pom xenia in one tank and Elongata in another. When I move to the stock tanks they will be 100% monoculture unless you think the Xenia could be causing the problem, then I will seperate immediately.

I will attach some pictures for reference. First is the cutting, second is soaking in a bucket and the third and fourth are both halves after four days recovery.

Todd

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Posted 4/4/2007 9:47:13 AM


 

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and the lighting is 40W 5500k 90CRI shop lights. Two tube lights over each tank.

Todd
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Posted 4/4/2007 7:37:37 PM


 

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much obliged bro... and the cuts and specimens look fine, hardware spot on. No complaints. And no idea yet what the problem may be here for the slow heal.

Very odd actually. How old are the donors/parents? Or rather, how long were they sitting in the same place before you cut them?

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Anthony Calfo

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Posted 4/4/2007 8:29:07 PM


 

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Just had to flip the same half of the Sebae over. It actually stayed right side up slightly longer after I fed them yesterday. I don't have very high hopes for it's recovery though. When I flipped it, there were small puffs of something milky brown expelled. Just looked again, within 10 minutes, upside down again.

Know to answer your questions:
I purchased what I thought were wild caught anemones from LA in October. Some time later I noticed that the mouths were off center on all of them. I am not sure if this means they are clones, but I would think this is a good sign that they were propagated.
They have been in the same tanks under the same light and eating well at least once a day since October, so I believe they are acclimated well enough for cutting.

The thing that really gets me is that the healing halves are looking very healthy. The RBTA was more than ready for it's second cutting at four weeks, but like an idiot, I had a rock in it's tank that it never went near and shortly after cutting it attached to the rock and I couldn't remove it when I wanted to cut it. I have removed the anemone from the rock, and the rock from the tank. I will attempt another cut when I return from a trip to Upstate NY next week.

Todd
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Posted 4/5/2007 11:24:57 AM


 

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ToddLaCo (4/4/2007)
Just had to flip the same half of the Sebae over. It actually stayed right side up slightly longer after I fed them yesterday. I don't have very high hopes for it's recovery though. When I flipped it, there were small puffs of something milky brown expelled. Just looked again, within 10 minutes, upside down again.


I had one "true rose" bta do this after being cut, it looked healthy enough but wanted to stay upside down. I accidentally left the feeding tongs in its basket one day, and when I came back an hour or so later it was right-side-up and propping itself against the tongs. It stayed attached a few days until I'd taken the tongs back (I needed them!), then was upside-down again one morning. I flipped it back over and propped it up with the tongs and it stayed that way and has since. *knock on wood* Maybe give yours something to prop on for a short time? You aren't going to to cut it until it heals anyway so maybe let it have a security blankie for awhile?

HTH

-Sonja

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Posted 4/25/2007 4:08:17 PM
 

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is 40watts over 20-gallon tank is the best lighting for an anemone?

I have a 30-gallon tank with 3 40-watt bulbs over it. So it's 120 watts total. And I actually think it still might be too dark for them? We also have a 400-gallon salt water fishtank and have some anemones there. With all the corals in there, the lights are much stronger than 120 watts and the anemones sometimes climb all the way up and seem to love it.

-liza

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Posted 4/25/2007 8:24:42 PM


 

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the watts per gallon of light is irrelevant without discussing the quality (CRI and/or PAR) of the lamps.

But if you have good quality (high PAR, high CRI over 90 ideally) lights, then you will find that about 5 watts per gallon is bare minimum for typical zooxanthellate corals and anemones.

you may need more light my friend.

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Anthony Calfo

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