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| ... prompted by a friend with whom I was chatting about this topic, I'm reminded to start a thread here for folks to refer to in the archives. Many aquarists commonly use the (drop ceiling) building material known as "egg grate." This intersecting lighting grid is designed for drop ceiling installations in places where light fixtures are installed. Aquarists use egg grate to cover their aquariums as they block little light from above and nicely keep most all fishes from jumping out at the same time  But did you know that there is a top side and a down side to egg grate? More accurately, there is a spread side and a focus side. That is to say, the interior partitions of the grid are actually tapered to a narrow on one side for the purpose of spreading or focussing light downward, depending on position. One side measures approximately .07 in thickness while the other measures only .05 So if you are installing egg grate in an office and you are looking for optimizing light spread and energy consumption/efficiency, you'd naturally want maximum spread of light (the tapered side facing downward). But we want to focus precious aquarium light (expensive to produce!) downward to get as much of it into out aquarium as possible (tapered side up). If you have an aquarium in a dark living room, for example, you may notice that light shines out from the aquarium glass and onto the floor. That is wasted light! But if you put the egg grate over it and focus the light downward, you will notice the light does not spill onto the floor anymore! Remember... tapered side up for aquaria. The other caveat is that you want to capture the light before it gets a chance to spread out from the fixture itself... so the egg grate must be rather near to the lamps. Fluorescents are easy... they must be close to the aquarium water surface to be remotely effective in the first place (within 3") and the egg grate can be placed safely between them. But metal halide/halogen lamps run very hot and the egg grate can melt, like other plastics. Keep the egg grate several inches away and use cooling fans for hot lamps. That's no inconvenience here because you will need to keep metal halide lamps farther off the surface than fluorescents anyways, and they all typically benefit (literally affecting the color and quality of light) from running cooler (with ans) regardless of egg grate use or not. FWIW kindly, Anth- 
. Anthony Calfo
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Posted 1/31/2006 8:38:12 AM |
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| If you would please pass along to MarineDepot how great this new forum is and how much help it has been. All the moderators are fantastic. MarineDepot has rounded up the best in the hobby.That is really good information on the lighting crate. I use lighting crate verses glass cover over my tanks so they can breathe better and it helps keeps them cooler. Keep up the excellent work and thanks for sharing your knowledge. I am going to check all my tanks tonight.
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Posted 1/31/2006 8:38:42 AM |
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Interesting. I just setup my canopy & lights for my new 55G tank. I went with 5 48 inch, 54W T5 HO bulbs with lovely reflectors & workhorse ballasts, 2 actinic bulbs (for prettiness) and 3 10K daylight bulbs. Now, the bulbs are mounted in the top of the canopy, about 5-7 inches from the water.
You posted:
Fluorescents are easy... they must be close to the aquarium water surface to be remotely effective in the first place (within 3") and the egg grate can be placed safely between them.
Can you clarify the "close to the water" and "within 3 inches" bit a little for me? If needed (grumble, grumble) and can do some modifications to bring them a bit closer to the water. I like them as high as I have them as I can reach into the canopy with plenty of room for feeding, etc.
Thanks!
Paul Thompson
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Posted 1/31/2006 8:48:52 AM |
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Terry... thanks for your very kind words my friend I'll be sure to do so!Paul... does the phrase "beat like a red-headed step-child" mean anything to you? Hmmm... just curious. Er... put another way, "the numbers never lie." A light meter placed under your lamps at say 5-7" off the water surface and then taking readings at even the very surface of the water (before going under where your corals will be/need the light) will be very disappointing to you Despite quality of light form many fluorescents, what they lack is intensity. They have a weak punch. And anything over 3" off the surface of the water is really quite a waste of light. Its staggering really. If you have the funds in time to buy another cool toy...do check out an Apogee Quantum light meter (search this forum for a thread on it or see it in the list of discussions under "fav links.." atop this forum. Frankly, my friend... fluorescents over 3" off the water are very poor for keeping zooxanthellate animals alive in aquari. I am sure these need to be lowered considerably. If you ran a comparison of a single 175 watt metal halide over water at depth versus two 100 watt VHOs even (total 220 watts of light), the 175 watt halide will significantly outperform the fluorescents at depth. They have the intensity... and as such allow you to keep more corals, plants, algae for the same or less light used in that aquarium. The MH lamps also last longer too. I do use VHO on some aquaria because i like the color and I accept the limitations. But MH is hands down the best value in light IMO
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Posted 1/31/2006 9:02:04 AM |
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Ok. Now I believe you that this is true.
However, I am a little lost on the why of this. I understand that flourescent light is going to be lost pretty badly as it passes through the water. However, why would there be that much of a loss of light in the air?
Paul Thompson
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Posted 1/31/2006 9:08:18 AM |
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There is a huge loss of light through the air, in large part because of the spread of light. It really will amaze you to see and measure it with a meter. I was dumbstruck the first time I measured NO lamps with a meter. It led me to believe/repeat the mantra that if your fluorescent lamps are over 3" off the surface... unplug them. Doh! The numbers don't lie. It's quite amazing, truly, to see the amount of light that makes it to 18" below the surface from 3" mounted lamps versus 6" mounted lamps. The difference is (literally) exponential Sanjay Joshi addresses this issue (spread versus intensity) in a lighing article... I think it may have been in Advanced Aquarist e-zine. I'd have to dig for it. Regarding the light meters:http://www.marinedepot.com/FORUMS/Topic24408-13-1.aspx
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Posted 1/31/2006 9:14:32 AM |
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Posted 1/31/2006 10:44:31 AM |
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| The aquamedic T5 light fixture appears to hang more than 3" above the tank water, at least in the ads... Won't T5 single lamp reflectors give you a little more wiggle room? -Sam
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Posted 1/31/2006 11:29:55 AM |
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some T5 lamps are indeed better performers in this regard than all other fluorescent lamps. But none can compare to the intensity (re: light at depth) of MH lamps. At this point it comes down to if you are willing to keep all your corals in the top 12-18" of water (generalizing here) or your aquarium is less than 24" and has some substrate, or simply going to MH lamps. Fluorescent technologies are fine for shallow aquaria, but have little place beyond aesthetics for deeper tanks IMO. 24" is my max for using FL's
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Posted 1/31/2006 11:44:56 AM |
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