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Posted 1/25/2006 9:23:30 PM
 

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I walk into the fish room and notice someting odd, my large spiny puffer is sucked face first into my mag 36 closed loop pump.  Apparently the pre screen came off, not sure how.  He was puffed out and I assumed dead, I reached in with a tong and tried to pull him loose(pump still on,he was dead right) and it was stuck.  unplugged pump and still he is lodged in the intake.  So take tongs yank him out and he deflates and swims away  His skin was tore up little and his eye is glazed over but he is still alive, although a tad bit stressed.  Do I need to do anything special or just let him chill and recover?  tuff ol cuss.  replaced prescreen with different one and it fits tight. 

Current Tanks: 240 reef room divider connected to 1000 gallon refugium in basement
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Posted 1/25/2006 9:30:09 PM


 

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thread moved... you are now in the Puffer Queen's hands. No worries.

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Anthony Calfo

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Posted 1/26/2006 5:22:11 AM


 

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Thanks Anthony for moving the thread to this forum.

Welcome Huskerreef to marinedepot.com and my forum.

First off, sorry about this terrible accident.

Unfortunately I have seen this personally  as well as heard of this happening more times than I can count.  Puffers seem to be drawn to the "humming" of the pumps.  Often the smaller ones get mesmerized & will inadvertently get sucked in/caught/trapped.  The larger ones while mesmerized view this as something to eat/taste and will often bite/destroy or alter a powerhead/pump.  I have seen puffers chew/eat/dismantle the presponge filters in less than 8 hours and then start on the plastic prefilter screen.  I have seen the entire case of a Mag 12 removed & crushed in less than 4 hours of placing in a tank.  It is because of this "problem" with puffers that I now place all pumps that are in the display tank in "cages" (made of plastic lighting crate/screen from Home Depot), not real pretty but in my tanks that are not predrilled for a sump, it beats the alternatives - injury/death of a puffer, electrocution/fire from destroyed/eaten pump, etc. 

All cords to these pumps must be protected as well.  Often a puffer will be chasing or attempting to get a piece of food by the cord & will bite into it . I would suggest protecting the cord with pvc pipe/coupling or thick vinyl tubing.

As far as what to do for your chilomycterus schoepfi (common spiny box puffer).  Maintain prisctine water conditions.  I'd suggest frequent water changes daily for 3 - 5 days to cut down on the number of pathogens that he could be exposed to in this time of stress.

Feed the puffer food enriched with vitamins, garlic and most importantly beta glucan.  This will help boost its immune system and hopefully will heal and won't develop any secondary bacterial infections.

Is the puffer eating or able to open/close its mouth.  Is the injured eye moving ?  Is the injured eye poped out ?  Can you post a pic ?

There may be some swelling or slight discoloration initially secondary to the injury.  Watch closely for signs of infection - redness, increased swelling, increased respirations, both eyes become cloudy, refusal to eat, erradic behavior/hiding - just to name a few.

Best of luck with your spiny box puffer.
Please keep us updated on your marine friend.


Kelly
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Posted 1/26/2006 9:11:29 PM
 

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well the eye is still in but white he has some skin tearing just above the eye.  not very interested in eating and spends most the time against the back of the lagoon.  can't really get a good pic since it is a look down lagoon and he is 6' away hiding behind some rock.  hopefully as time passes he will heal up and his personality will be back. 

Current Tanks: 240 reef room divider connected to 1000 gallon refugium in basement
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Posted 1/27/2006 1:55:11 PM


 

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Huskerreef,

Thanks for the update.

You might want to consider adding some vitamins, garlic and beta glucan to the puffer's diet in order to boost immunity and help healing and hopefully prevent a secondary bacterial infection.

Reluctance to eat is not uncommon after a traumatic event/stress, but getting the puffer to eat will improve chances of healing/recuperating.  You might consider getting some freshwater ghost shrimp (many LFS carry them) and gut load them.  Most puffers won't refuse a live shrimp.

Best of luck.
Keep us updated.


Kelly
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Posted 1/30/2006 1:10:08 PM


 

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Huskerreef,

Hope your puffer friend is on the mend.

Any updates?


Kelly
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Posted 2/3/2006 9:48:43 PM
 

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well unfortunetly he has passed on, to much damage and couldn't get him to eat.  fought hard for a week. 

Current Tanks: 240 reef room divider connected to 1000 gallon refugium in basement
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Posted 2/4/2006 4:58:36 AM


 

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Huskerreef,

Sorry for your loss. 

Thanks for letting us know.

Again, sorry.


Kelly
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