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To get some weight on the puffer fast, soak some freeze dried foods (generally high protein) in Vita Chem (Boyd enterprises) or the like.
I used this as a discus fish breeder and did some casual tests where I split spawns and fed some with the soaked food and some without and noticed a dramatic difference in growth. Mix up the freeze dried offerings (krill, plankton worm cubes, etc), don't forget to keep some frozen food mixed in too (though be heavier handed on FD matter until it gets its weight back as frozen food is great on vitamins but fairly low on protein).
.Anthony Calfo
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hi puffer queen ( kelly )
thanks for your advice
i couldnt send PM due to overload your mail box
so i have to write here because of some misunderstandings
i have some problems about my 2 little batfishes.
they have white spots and i decide to cure them in QT with the other 3 damsles even they have not white spots
bathfishes are about 1 cm in body each not inclede fins and damsles are less than 1 cm each
i prefer to use hyposalinity method but two questions :
1- is hyposalinity about 1.010 harmfull to this size of fishes ?
2- as i read in the first page of this topic you adviced that hyposalinity must be done in 48 hours period
but i read a few days ago that if the hyposalinity done instantly it will be better due to the shock for parasits
so what can i do ?
i have this problem about 10 days and i couldnt pick any safe natural method
thanks and excuse me again
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k_zangeneh (9/23/2009)
hi puffer queen ( kelly )
thanks for your advice
i couldnt send PM due to overload your mail box
so i have to write here because of some misunderstandings
i have some problems about my 2 little batfishes.
they have white spots and i decide to cure them in QT with the other 3 damsles even they have not white spots
bathfishes are about 1 cm in body each not inclede fins and damsles are less than 1 cm eachAre you sure that the white spots are external parasites? Could this be a viral process like lymphocystisis? Can you post a pic - macro of the batfish? Do the spots stay in the same area and not fall off?
i prefer to use hyposalinity method but two questions :
1- is hyposalinity about 1.010 harmfull to this size of fishes ? This treatment is for external parasites - it will not help with other pathogens. I have not experienced any problems treating different sizes/ages of fish with hyposalinity.
2- as i read in the first page of this topic you adviced that hyposalinity must be done in 48 hours period
but i read a few days ago that if the hyposalinity done instantly it will be better due to the shock for parasits Some fish can not tolerate the rapid drop in salinity and may die from a sudden change.
so what can i do ?
i have this problem about 10 days and i couldnt pick any safe natural method
thanks and excuse me again First, the correct diagnosis, then the treatment can be determined. If it is external parasites - ie: hyposalinity, copper, transfer method,.... If it is lymphocystisis - good husbandry, decrease stressors.... A pic or skin scraping would really be helpful.
Kelly
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Finaly i found you
hi puffer queen
thanks for your advices
still after about 20 days the batfishes have small white spots and damsels have no spots
some of the white spots are still in their first place but some removed and anothers appeared in fins
these are two macro pics ( note that these bat fishes are less than 1 cm )
as i seen in the net pics these are not like lymphocystisis but im not sure
i asked somebody and he told me this infection is a kind of bacteria infection if he is right is there any natural cure for them ?
i dont like using chemicals treatment and chemical drugs i preferr to cure even myself with natural procedure
another problem are their color changes they change color from light brown the second pic to deep dark brown the first pic ( these pics are for two seperate fishes at the same time ) as you can see one of them is dark and the other is not i dont know the original color of them and they change color without any specific reason i.e before feeding one is dark and the other is not during feeding the dark one change to light brown but after feeding they change to dark again both but this is not happen all time some times this happen in a different way
due to my tank size ( its better to call it bowl 10G ) i have problems finding Appropriate fishes for my tank here we have no expert LFS so i decide to add little fishes to my tank and after some time when they get bigger i change them with another little fish is it right ? i,e i know batfishes need a large aquarium for free swimming also iknow they grow too fast so i decide to change them in the next 6 months and add one foxface less than 1 cm or clowns less than 1 cm
is it work ?
thanks again
i will be appreciated to hear from you
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Those spots really are quite large (enormous actually) to be "ich" or most any common ectoparasite. One thing we need to avoid here is over medicating the first without knowing what the condition actually is.
That said... the hyposalinity is quite safe for batfishes. As juveniles, they often grow up in mangrove "nursery" environments where the salinity is often lower and fluctuates frequently at times. I would not go as low as 1.010 on a very stressed fish,... but maybe 1.016
If the fish is feeding well, you may soak the food in antibiotics to at least treat secondary infections. Kelly should be the one to comment on this, though.
.Anthony Calfo
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| I would agree - definitely not ich. My 'guess' still is viral - which antibiotics will NOT work. The areas on the fins look more like lymphocystisis to me. Viral process have to run their course which could take weeks to months. This really doesn't look like a bactereial infection. I would recommend improving husbandry - water parameters, more swimming room, decrease stress, improve diet and add immune supports like beta glucan, and vitamins.
Kelly
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thanks a lot anthony and kelly
i realy dont know how look like Ich because i never seen this parasit
but i wrote that these fishes are too small and i zoomed the camera lens about 5X to take pics ( fishes are less than 1 cm )
these white spots was seen at the first on both of them and a few days later they dcreased in numbers but after some days they became full of white spots and gain they decreased in numbers
ok i will try to improve husbandry and wait for cure
dont you have any idea about color changes ?
best regards and thanks again
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