RE: Blue Hippo tang with spots

Puffer Queen — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 10:36:29 GMT

Josh,

Thanks for the updates.

In light of the fact that the dark spots and pale areas are now gone - they were definitely "reactions" to where the parasites were attached.

Keep adding the nori as the tang will eventually recognize it as an important part of its diet.

Thanks again for sharing.

RE: Blue Hippo tang with spots

Fmellish — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 08:35:06 GMT

Thanks Kelly.

The Tang is doing great. The black spots that presented after the white spots are now gone. He has no spots now and he has also lost the pale regions of his body. His color is now rich and uniform. The Angel is also doing well.

The Tang is still very shy though and only comes out for feedings. he is not afraid of his tank mate, he is afriad of me. I am trying not to take it personally. I will catch him playing with his tank mate and having a good old time, but when I approach the tank he scurries under his fake rock. He comes out to eat once I back away from the tank.

He eats mysis shrimp and LOVES cyclopeeze, but oddly enough he won't touch nori. Someone needs to tell him he's a herbivore.

Thanks again

Josh

RE: Blue Hippo tang with spots

Puffer Queen — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:39:33 GMT

Josh,

How is the hippo doing? Are the spots still there ? Any new pics

The black areas in question could be areas where there were parasites attached that have fallen off. It does not appear to be the typical presentation of black ich.

You are correct that tangs, especially hippos are very prone to ich so I recommend treating them prophylactically with either hyposalinity or copper.

I would definitely deworm both fish before they leave quarantine as well.

While treating the fish with copper, make sure you are enriching the food with beta glucan, selcon and vitamins. Fish that are newly acquired often have compromised immune systems. Add to that the stress of parasites and the immune system is further compromised. Copper treatment also compromises the immune system.

Thanks again Josh for sharing.

Best of luck.

Blue Hippo tang with spots

Puffer Queen — Tue, 25 Apr 2006 19:31:59 GMT

This is a "spin off" from another thread.

Hope all can contribute/share & learn.

Thanks Josh for sharing!

Fmellish

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Thank you Kelly, sorry for the lack of status updates.

Everything is perfect. Everyone made it through quarantine and the newer clown was successfully treated. After a clean bill of health I put them all back in the reef tank. They are all very happy and my anemone is hosting my perc.

I missed the chaos involved in operating a quarantine tank, so Friday night I set it back up and made two new purchases. Check it out

http://fmellish.shackspace.com/aquarium/

Should I be worried about my blue tang's blotchy skin? See website. I began treatment with Cupramine after he came down with white spots the first day in quarantine. But since adding the copper his skin look weird. Blotchy pale areas on boddy and small black spots on face.

If you think this is of concern I will start a new thread, other than that, this is the end of this thread.

They all lived happily ever after.

Thanks

Josh

Edited: 2 days ago @ 2:11 PM by Fmellish

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The new Blue Tang

I'm currently treating him with Cupramine. But he is very reclusive he won't come out and play. Water params are good. What are the dark spots on his head? And what are the pale area of his body?

Thanks
Josh

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Josh,

Thanks for the update - hats off to your husbandry skills!

I know the feeling of having an empty QT - kinda like the empty nest syndrome

As far as the blue hippo - ich magnets! I also suggest treating them prophylactically while in QT. Are the blotchy areas/black spots, areas where there were white spots originally ? Are the spots raised, flat or pitted?

How long has the hippo been in copper?

How is the fish eating?

How is the fish breathing?

Reclusive behavior is normal for a newly acquired stressed hippo. I noticed from the pic, it appears you have plenty of caves/places for it to retreat - great! Reducing stress so the fish can recuperate is a step in the right direction.

Thanks for sharing Josh!

Kelly

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I'm glad somebody understands where I'm coming from. My wife couldn't understand why I missed having the quarantine running These will be my final additions. 9 fish will be a handful. My goal is that they will all share their community peacefully. These 2 new fish will be in quarantine for as long as needed. I would be very disappointed to lose the Blue Tang.

I am not able to remember if the new dark spots are where the old white spots used to be. The good news is that the white spots vanished once I added the copper.

I am not able to tell if they are pitted or raised or flat, he darts into a cave if I get close to the tank.

He is eating well, although he is so shy I have to step far away from the tank after putting the food in before he'll come out.

I started adding the Cupramine yesterday morning at the sight of white raised spots, (very raised like he had white sand stuck to him). I will add the rest of the dose tomorrow morning to bring the tank to its full dosage level, (2 doses 48 hours apart per the instructions).

He had none of the white trophonts or blothchy skin discolorations at the store. He was a great looking fish. My friend and I had been making the fish store rounds Friday night looking at fish and we had noticed how all the stores had lazy looking tangs. Tangs that were thin with sunken in stomachs, or tangs that were lying on the sand bed, or Tangs that were too big for their tanks and were pale and discolored, or one store that just had several tanks with dead large Blonde Nasos in them. Our last stop was Jeff's in Tustin, and he had tanks full of these Blue Tangs and Flame Angels, and they all looked incredible. Beautiful coloring, extreme blue, black and yellow, not babies and not adults. Just the epitomy of what Blue Tangs and Flame Angels should look like in their prime. All tank mates were eating and the clerk claimed they had been there for three weeks. The clerk caught one of each for me and put them in a small observation tank. I gave both specimens a good staredown. They were the best looking I'd ever seen at a LFS. And just my luck, as soon as I get them home the Tang looks like he rolled himself in sugar like an aquatic Churro.

The Flame Angel seems very hardy. They both came from the same tank, and they are both in the same quarantine tank, so they are both getting copper.

His dorsal fin seems a bit tattered in some spots. Like his spots, his fins were perfect in the store.

His acclimation was uneventful however he was laying down in his bag pretty much ever since the LFS clerk bagged him. I have seen these blue tangs act skittish like this, however for me it reminds me of how my 2 female anthia acted when I received them, (laid down all the time), and then finally, died later.

Is there anything else I should consider at this point other than copper? For Tang's I've only really heard of them getting Ich or HLLE if stressed or malnourished.

I've got lots of Formalin and Praziquantel left over from the various problems I had to treat my other fish for

Thanks
Josh

Edited: 2 days ago @ 11:18 PM by Fmellish

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