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angelfish addict (5/12/2008)
Sorry, I forgot 2 answer ur questions so here r the answers. I am using 0.15 ml of formalin in a 1 litre container, aerating it with an airstone(I even aerate afew minutes b4 I put him in there). What is the strength/concentration of the formalin?? The brine shrimp he is eating is freeze dried. Are you enriching this with any vitamins/supplements? Is it safe to use the formalin in a SG of 0.009? Or is it dangerous/deadly like copper in low SG? Do you mean 1.009?? I do not like to add two stressors at a time when treating fish. I prefer doing formalin or fw baths.
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angelfish addict (5/11/2008)
what would a 2ndary bacterial infection look like?Could be red open wounds, discolorations, streaks, etc? I've been continuing the formalin baths daily since I wasn't able to come online to check what u suggested doing next. the red areas on his chin completely cleared up and same as his nostrils. I am using an airstone for aeration during the bath. Increased bath timing to an hour, and that's when I started seeing the results. the redness of the gills started to settle after the first half hour of the bath and looked alot better after. The airstone is good as it will help with oxygenation. I also did 3 FW dips for 5 mins in methylene blue and dabbed abit of methylene blue on the red areas, this also seemed to 'dry' up the mucusy areas on his chin. FW baths of this duration will not dislodge parasites. FW baths are not recommended with open lesions as it can lead to changes is osmotic pressure - and lead to dehydration. 2 days ago (3 formalin baths later) his left gill started to swell up and there was abit of blood there and mucus or possible white worms coming out of gill. right gill is fine though. Is it the covering of the gill or the gill plate itself?? continued treatment, yesterday as i was dabbing methylene blue on red bleeding gill the clownfish jumped and cotton bud got caught in wormlike thing. the good news wormlike thing gone (there's still 3 more like it to go)......bad news, he lost afew scales from his gill when this happened and now u can c the flesh in his gill. Can you see his gill plate? Can you post a pic?? I won't be using the formalin until the wound heals up, but there's still more of these white things on his gill, they look very dry. I felt the 1 that came off and it feels hard and fleshy, kind of like those stringy fleshy things that grow out of ur cuticle from time to time & hurt when u get salt or citrus on them. Is it the gill plate?? any idea what these white things are? I'm just going 2 leave him in the QT with no treatments 4 now. the SG is 0.009. Why are you treating with hyposalinity?? Do I need 2 do anything to the 'healthy' clownfish in the QT with him? They've been there 4 2 weeks now and she doesn't seem 2 b sick. The healthy one was exposed so I would watch closely. Did you do formalin baths on the healthy one?
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| The bottle doesn't say the concentration of formalin but its called 'Yellow Treatment' and it's by 'Reef Life' unfortunately medications are very difficult to come by in this part of the world and that's the only formalin medication I could find. No, I'm not enriching the brine shrimp with vitamins, but I'm feeding him garlic between feeds. But now I have managed to get him 2 eat home made brew (I minced up some shrimp,squid,mussels and garlic) and he thoroughly enjoys it. Sorry, yes I did mean a SG of 1.009. Ok, but if he is now in hypo and I'm about to do a 1 hr formalin bath on him, should I just do it in 1.023SG water from the DT (won't the sudden shift to normal salinity affect him since u r supposed to bring them to normal salinity over the course of 1 week or more). What SG should the formalin bath water be at? The part of the gill I'm refering to is the covering of the gill at the very front towards the head where there is something kind of like a small slit (I'm not sure what it is called). I put the clowns in hypo thinking it may help with any possible parasites. Was that wrong? Should I start to bring it up? For the last 2 days I haven't been treating him with any meds and now, all signs of redness are gone, the swelling of his left gill is gone, all redness and mucus on chin, nostril and mouth gone. All that is left are these white things on his gill. They look very dry.
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| after the injury to the gill with the cotton bud, the gill plate was not exposed, just an open red area at the front of the gill, anyway it healed up overnight and ended up looking alot better and no more swelling or redness in the area anymore. Maybe i should pick off the other white things left on his gill LOL, only joking. I have not done any formalin baths on the other healthy clownfish, just the hypo.
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Are the white areas - raised? Do they look like cauliflower?
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angelfish addict (5/14/2008)
The bottle doesn't say the concentration of formalin but its called 'Yellow Treatment' and it's by 'Reef Life' unfortunately medications are very difficult to come by in this part of the world and that's the only formalin medication I could find. No, I'm not enriching the brine shrimp with vitamins, but I'm feeding him garlic between feeds. But now I have managed to get him 2 eat home made brew (I minced up some shrimp,squid,mussels and garlic) and he thoroughly enjoys it. Sorry, yes I did mean a SG of 1.009. Ok, but if he is now in hypo and I'm about to do a 1 hr formalin bath on him, should I just do it in 1.023SG water from the DT (won't the sudden shift to normal salinity affect him since u r supposed to bring them to normal salinity over the course of 1 week or more). What SG should the formalin bath water be at? Are you treating the 'healthy' clown? If the fish is not showing any signs of pathogens and it is in 1.009, and you are doing this prophylactically, I would use the same salinity that the clown is currently in. I put the clowns in hypo thinking it may help with any possible parasites. Was that wrong? Should I start to bring it up? Since you have started the treatment, I would finish it or you could have partial treatment. For the last 2 days I haven't been treating him with any meds and now, all signs of redness are gone, the swelling of his left gill is gone, all redness and mucus on chin, nostril and mouth gone. All that is left are these white things on his gill. They look very dry. This abnormal dryness is probably from the direct application of methylene blue.
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